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This question is asking about individuals who call 911 when they should know better. For instance, I leave my gate open and my neighbor calls 911 to ask them to come and arrest me because my gate is blocking the sidewalk. Or, I can't remember the number to Domino's so I call 911 to ask if they can transfer my call to Domino's. Or, I'm in a new city and I can't find where I'm going so I call 911 for directions. Should people in these sorts of situations be fined? Why or why not?
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"Truth is not only violated by falsehood; it may be equally outraged by silence" - Amiel
"The beginning of thought is in disagreement -- not only with others but also with ourselves" - Hoffer
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Or how about these examples?
My oldest nephew decided he was going to call 911 the other day to tell on his mommy for making him get dressed to go to the store (he wanted to watch Spongebob in his Spongebob underwear and she totally ruined his day and therefore, needed to be arrested). I caught him right before he pressed the talk button.
You kind of expect that type of stuff from 4 year olds, but adults?! Anyone that made it to adulthood and is as clueless as some of the people that made the calls you linked should really be considered a danger to the public.
:idk:
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"Truth is not only violated by falsehood; it may be equally outraged by silence" - Amiel
"The beginning of thought is in disagreement -- not only with others but also with ourselves" - Hoffer
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When my sister and I were little, my mom was putting my brother down for a nap and I was doing who knows what. My 3yo decided to call 911...twice...then we had some officers show up at our door...they were polite, but annoyed. My sister got in trouble. :P
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Just about all of those examples can be fined in my eyes. Only one I see as a grey area....
“I have never roasted a turkey before and my inlaws will be here in an hour.” could really be considered an emergency and if turkey day goes wrong somebody could be murdered in rare cases.
There are very few human beings who receive the truth, complete and staggering, by instant illumination. Most of them acquire it fragment by fragment, on a small scale, by successive developments, cellularly, like a laborious mosaic.~- Anais Nin
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I am treated as evil by people who claim that they are being oppressed because they are not allowed to force me to practice what they do. ~D. Dale Gulledge
i'm surprised people arent already getting fined for doing stuff like this? they should!!!
theres an easy solution 311!!! i'm not sure if its the same in all regions but 311 is the non emergency number, i use it waaaaayyyyy more than 911 (cant remember the last time i called 911 but when i was in 5th grade i called them and hung up, and they came to my house to make sure everything was ok) anyway, when i see accidents on the expressway, or when i saw a man hitting a woman on the side of the street, i called 311 in both cases, and let the dispatcher know, i once saw a huge, lounge chair on the highway, i called and let them know. oh and the hubby and i were driving at 3am thru arizona in the pitch dark, we r looking for gas, we see signs saying 11 miles gas, we go there, the station isnt even there anymore!!! gas light comes on, we r scared, i called 311 told them what was going on, and they told me exactly where the next actual station was, and gave me some tips like drive slow and consistent etc... to help me on my way
the thing is people need to know there is a non emergency number, i bet many people dont, and dont know what the number is in their region (if its not 311)
Perfect way to make people pay for being stupid. I mean, it's one thing if it's a situation that's not an emergency, but could become one, or might be construed as one (seeing a man push someone to the ground from a distance, for instance). But if they're calling for stupid reasons like the above, I see no reason why they shouldn't be fined.
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No, what happens if it was an accident?
Generally when one calls 911 unintentionally, they say they called in error. When one calls 911 for something like an open gate blocking the sidewalk, or to request directions... that's not an accident. That's idiocy.
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"Truth is not only violated by falsehood; it may be equally outraged by silence" - Amiel
"The beginning of thought is in disagreement -- not only with others but also with ourselves" - Hoffer
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Stupid is no exuse.
-acertainsaint-
They should be fined then kicked in the ass.
I second that motion. I think that somebody should be arrested for this too. You call for something stupid, somebody will be arrested
There are very few human beings who receive the truth, complete and staggering, by instant illumination. Most of them acquire it fragment by fragment, on a small scale, by successive developments, cellularly, like a laborious mosaic.~- Anais Nin
i think we can all agree that asking for directions or getting your call transferred is ridiculous and they should be fined. One woman in baltimore was arrested for calling 911 over a hundred times in the period of a couple of months for things like not liking her neighbors choice in company, loud music in the cars passing by or neighborhood children playing too close to her house. this is not only stupid, but a pubic safety issue because it takes time away when pone lines are tied up and if personnel are sent to investigate a claim.
There are some cases, however, when people call 911 because they honestly believe it's for the best. So long as there is a valid reason for why the person felt it necessary, i don't think they should be fined.
I think every benefit of the doubt should be given in determining what constitutes an emergency, but anyone with half a brain should know calling 911 to ask to be transfered to Domino's is, well, wrong. I think some grace should be given if someone truly believes what they're calling about is a serious emergency, but when people call 911 for stupid things there should be consequences.
"Live above money; put your heart in front of you and follow it."
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My neighbor is having shady teenagers come over. I am worried about them breaking into my house. I call 911. Did I have an emergency or am I calling for something stupid?
-acertainsaint-
That's kind of a gray area. I think if you genuinely believe the teenagers next door are acting suspiciously and might be engaging in illegal activity you should probably be given the benefit of the doubt, but if you're calling 911 every time the neighbor kid has a friend over you're being stupid. Maybe when it comes to things like that there should be a three strike system or something like that instead of an automatic fine.
"Live above money; put your heart in front of you and follow it."
Unknown
If you don't know who else to call other than 911 about things that aren't really emergencies, but the police need to be notified, I think that's a sign that the number for the local police department isn't well-known enough and some sort of awareness action might be good to be considered.
I am treated as evil by people who claim that they are being oppressed because they are not allowed to force me to practice what they do. ~D. Dale Gulledge
and they showed up at the door of my cousin's house...
Of course, they were told all was okay....but they do have to do their job and came to check on everything, after which....our phones are far far far away out of reach or turned off in our house and my cousin's own house and her mom's...yes...three houses...two kids and my cousin lives across the street from me....I can spy on her from my window and she can do the same to me, we occasionally act stupid and guess if the other houses' people are awake and what are they doing if they ARE awake...but cousin is usually asleep because 2 kids and both are boys, are a handful :)
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Accidents are one thing. Kids will be kids.
But I know even in my county, if a kid makes an "accident" multiple times, the family is fined. Even the community center in my neighborhood has gotten in trouble for kids calling 911 from the payphone in the hall.
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basically keep phones away from the little ones, I turn my cell phone off before I let them play with it, or they actually have toy phones although they are shrewd enough to know that those are not the real deal but we're fine, didn't happen after that one time.
"He who awaits much can expect little."
- Gabriel Garcia Marquez, No One Writes to the Colonel
(me thinks...I will meet GM in another life)
I have to disagree with your determination to "keep phones away from the little ones." While children shouldn't be playing with phones they SHOULD learn how to use a phone, especially how and when to call 911.
Ideally every child would instantly understand both what to do if there is an emergency and that it's never ok to dial 911 when it's not an emergency, but children don't learn like that. There will always be kids who get the what to do before they understand when to do it, or who simply HAVE to see what happens. If you're lucky you catch them before they finish dialing....
"Live above money; put your heart in front of you and follow it."
Unknown
but...I understand the point you are making.
"He who awaits much can expect little."
- Gabriel Garcia Marquez, No One Writes to the Colonel
(me thinks...I will meet GM in another life)
I was driving home from my friends house late once, and saw a man running down the street waving his arms,trying to flag people down, i had my daughter so i did not stop(it was dark, no street lights kind of like a side rd) anyways i called 911 and told them i did not know the emergency number, and then started telling them the situation, the lady told me that the non emergency number and 911 calls went to the same place. Anyways, she took down the info and gave my the non emergency number, i think in some cases,it is better to be safe than sorry
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