"wtf is mcain"

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As I lay Madame Buttocks on the couch for the Summer tradition of watching mindless TV for hours and hours, I caught something on NBC Nightly News about the Presidential Race. Now, I'm pretty much sold on Barack Obama (or the Obamanater as I'd like to call him), but do we really know all that much about the other candidates?

I asked a few people on AIM and realized that not many of my peers, a bulk of the population, know substantive facts about the candidates. Apparently this is all we need to know about the future leaders of the only remaining superpower in the world.

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HILLARY CLINTON LOKS LIKE A MAN LOL

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isnt she da gay 1

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obamas so guna bomb r asses

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wtf is mcain

I think the last quote is the most resonant. The people in charge of all of these campaigns don't seem to be getting the message to the youth. Unless we start actually taking action and looking up as much as we can about the candidates and being active in the process, we're going to be left out of the process. What a shame that will be; we have a chance to bring about change, and we give it up to watch The Hills

and for future reference buddy, McCain has two C's, not one...

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vern's picture
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Wow these quotes are extremely sad. You bring up a very good point, the candidates aren't reaching the youth the way they should be. I'll openly say that I've been sold on Obama for a long while now, but I still make it a point to stay up to date on McCain's viewpoints. Many people, however, don't take this effort that's where the candidates need to step in.

Right on the money, definitely. The only candidate that I've seen actually "pander" (although I hate the term with a passion) is Mark Huckabee with his Chuck Norris ad. A bit kitschy, yes, but it got to a subsector of America that isn't exactly thrilled to go watch C-SPAN.

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Uhhh, you mean Mike Huckabee?
I disagree though I think that both Hillary and Obama have had some catchy ads, like the notorious 3 am ad (if you haven't seen it look it up). I think that it will honestly be hardest for McCain to reach the youth because he is the oldest. Hey, I watch C-SPAN as an 18 year old, then again politics are kinda my passion.
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This does pretty much describe the disconnect that many youth feel toward politics today. It's possible to find out more about the other candidates, but they do make it very hard with all the spin that the put on everything. You can hardly quote any reliable, unbiased sources any more. It's pretty sad.
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This is typical of youth. I'm bashing you not as a member of the older generation; I'm only 18. We expect everyone to cater to our needs, to selfishly serve us. Let's realize that we have to take the initiative in our own lives and make decisions about the candidates for ourselves. I'm politically involved because I took the responsibility of seeking out information about the candidates for myself, not because they presented me with their ideas on a silver platter.

Obama has become a youth fad. We're all spoiled rotten, and when a presidential candidate suddenly starts preaching slogans to us as if we're special, we all jump on his bandwagon. All I can say is, Obama gotcha.

Your friends have no sense of political efficacy and are totally apathetic, which is their own choice; I don't fault them for that. But I cringe when my peers start complaining that politicians don't treat them specially.

I know a lot about McCain because I've read articles about him and visited his website. Same goes for Hillary. I've sought out Obama as well, but I can't find anything politically substantive about him. Arguing that he's campaigning for "change" is dangerously vague. He should have waited eight years to run for president.

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Odd that as an 18 year old yourself you feel it okay to bring up things like this. While youth shouldn't expect candidates to just present their ideas on a silver platter, they should still present them and make them known. I mean, it shouldn't take the research, the candidates are everywhere flip through your television and you're bound to hear something about them.
As for your research it's good that you have done your work to know their opinions, but don't dismiss Obama because you can't find anything "substantive" and he's advocating for "change", look a little deeper. I've seen both him and Hillary speak, as well as Michelle Obama, and I can tell you that he does have a plan for change, you just have to seek it. I see no reason why any of the candidates should have waited.
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The only thing that can potentially damage Obama at this point (now that the pastor catastrophe is probably behind us) is his obvious lack of experience. Had he waited another eight years to run, I can confidently say he would have been unstoppable.

I'm just wary of Obama. He's an orator, a pretty face, and a demagogue. He has no political history from which I can get an idea of his politics to accurately judge him. I will never trust what he says, or any politician for that matter. I look at their records, not their words. And Obama has little record to speak of. He said no to invading Iraq, but he was a measly state legislator back then; that really doesn't mean much. He had no access to information or intelligence (which might be just as well, seeing how false it turned out to be.)

Not to mention, he has had some unsavory connections. Like that Bill Ayers character.

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I don't know, I think there are cards to be played on both sides still. I can't really say much to this comment without it being totally biased, and since I'm trying not to do that and to just play middle ground I'll leave it at that.
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