I make many grammatical errors in the course of my writing. Going through old posts, I cringe when I come across all of the commas that my comma-happy-self has put in places they don't rightly belong. When I write, I put it in Word and watch the little lines pop up here and there telling me I have far too many sentence fragments, that I didn't use an apostrophe in my contractions, that my comma usage is sadly lacking, or that, once again, I've used a word that doesn't rightly exist. Despite the errors that do make it through my proofreading sessions, I do try.
And I do expect others to try. Nothing irritates me more than to come across a post that is riddled with spelling and grammar errors. When I'm reading a news story and see yet another omitted word, misspelled word, or wrong word, I have this nearly overwhelming compulsion to write the author and inform them of the error. When I'm driving down the road and I see a billboard or store sign with misspellings, I want to scream. When I'm reading posts here at ProgressiveU and come across one in which the author didn't bother to run a spell check, or Goddess forbid, failed to use proper English, I want to tear my hair out.
I'm much more lax on grammatical errors than I am on spelling errors. Rules of grammar can be a bitch to master and grammar checks don't always hack it. Spelling, however, is a completely different story. To me, there simply is no excuse for submitting anything with multiple spelling errors. It comes across to me as pure laziness and drives me out of my mind. So, imagine my surprise today when I see Making an Arguement for Misspelling on the CNN webpage. I, naturally, had to click to see what the deal was.
Apparently, people are lobbying for spelling reform because of common spelling errors. Instead of February, they spell Febuary. Instead of truly, they use truely. I wanted to feel a little sympathy for those people when reading the story, but despite trying to convince myself that maybe it was necessary, I couldn't quite do it.
It greatly bothers me that we're willing to reform spelling simply to make life easier for the people that make those errors. In an age in which we can open a word processing program, download a simple tool bar, visit a dictionary, or even paste our work into an online spell checker and have the correct spelling spit out in mere seconds, it is unfathomable that we would even consider naming these misspellings "variants" instead of the misspellings that they, in reality, are. And it really makes me wonder when we're going to stop making excuses for laziness and start holding people accountable.
I mean, honestly.
I'd be willing to give leeway to those with learning disabilities and those new to English when it comes to spelling. However, in my experience, it isn't those individuals that are turning in work riddled with errors. Those are the individuals that take as much care as they can to use the tools that have been designed to make life easier. They are the people utilizing these simple methods of checking for spelling errors.
It is the people who have no excuse that I see continually making excuses for why they couldn't paste their work into one of the various programs or resources available and then right click to fix the spelling (or, barring computer access, pick up a dictionary).
Making excuses for those individuals and saying "it's just too hard so let's reform spelling" is a cop-out. It's not too hard. Even before the advent of such nifty tools as we have now, it wasn't too hard. If I could whip out my dictionary in 3rd grade and check spelling, I fully expect that a college freshman or 40-something can as well.
I took spelling tests nearly every week all the way through high school. On Monday, our teachers would pass out the words we needed to learn that week as well as their definitions. We would study them over the course of the week and come Friday, that teacher would then hand out the test. We'd fill in the blanks next to the definition with the word that fit. If it was spelled incorrectly, they marked off a point. If it was the wrong word, they marked off another point. Every 4 weeks, those that passed every test got a "get out jail free card" and did not have to take the review test. For those that failed a test during those 4 weeks, a review test was handed out and they got a second chance to prove they had learned how to spell the words.
Those that actually tried generally passed that review test and were able to spell those words correctly when they needed them later. Those who didn't give a flying flip didn't pass and didn't spell the words correctly later either. The notable exception, of course, was those with learning disabilities, but they weren't given a free ride either. They were given an ability specific test and more often than not, those people passed the tests too.
And in case you're wondering how I know that... I never failed a spelling test and was often called upon to help the students with learning disabilities do their tests and to grade the tests of my other fellow students (which, I might add, solves the "we don't have time to grade more tests" complaint that some instructors might raise). The teacher would grade my test and I would then go through and grade the others. All he or she had to do was to put those grades in the gradebook once I was finished.
It was a simple enough process and surprise, surprise, those commonly misspelled words weren't as commonly misspelled after a little practice. It didn't take reforming the entire system of spelling to get the point across. It didn't take making excuses. It simply took a little bit of effort. And since I haven't yet seen the memo that says effort is outdated, I'm guessing we're just too lazy to bother with that effort.
Reforming the way we view spelling isn't necessary. Getting people off their asses is, however, still necessary. When we address the literacy issue and the laziness issue, many of those spelling problems will, gasp, no longer be problems. We haven't even really attempted that yet, so why in God's name are we now rallying to reform spelling instead of rallying to reform lazy people and a disjointed if not completely defunct educational system?
We can't be bothered to fix the real problem, so we'll just pretend that the problem doesn't exist and instead, put Band-Aids over the signs that underlying issue has presented.
Yep. That makes a world of sense.
A god damned dictionary is what people need!
This is why on another poll I put that willful ignorance is the biggest problem facing people today. This is more than an education problem. This is people's unwillingness to make any effort to better themselves. This is about as dumb as the people who sued McDonalds. I can't for the life of me understand why people refuse to open a book or even watch some Jeopardy and learn something. What's so bad about learning? When I become a high school English teacher, we are having spelling tests every week, and no lives shall be spared!
This reminds me of "blaming the victim" a little. These people are the ones who spell words incorrectly and refuse to even try to improve spelling/grammar, yet the rest of us are accused of victimizing them with our scary proper English.
:-&
Spelling tests are how I Aced elementary school.
Way back in Africa, it had already died
I like how the article points out how people are punished for their spelling when it comes to things like applying for jobs.
No, darling, you weren't punished. Someone else was just rewarded for putting in more effort than you did. Employers tend to like people more when they aren't too lazy to check for mistakes on a damn job application.
I also kind of pronounce the 'r' and the 'f' in "February" and "Twelfth" so I'm really not seeing their argument that spelling is too hard because letters are silent. Using the logic that things should be spelled based on phonetics, I should be able to spell "Milk" with an "e" instead of an "i" and "bag" and "magazine" should have a "y" in them, because I talk funny.
This just dropped my faith in humanity down a few notches.
I'm... also jealous you found the article before I did... :-P
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I'm... also jealous you found the article before I did... :-P
lol! The entire time I was writing, I was thinking someone else will have posted this before I get this finished and I will have to stab them in the eye with a spork. That would have sucked.
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As an add-on, I would like to say that actually writing out "you are" leaves me feeling exhausted and feeling like I've wasted a significant amount of time in my life.
I propose that "ur" be made into a "variation" and added to every dictionary.
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The day that happens, I'm leaping from the tallest mountain I can find. Death is infinitely better than 9 billion or so people walking around spelling "you're" or "you are" as "ur". The thought alone sends me sobbing to my corner.
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Welcome to the Grammar Nazi club.
*reads the article*
When students would ask why there's no e in truly, Smith didn't really have an answer. "I'd say, 'Well, I don't know. ... You've just got to drop it because people do,' "
What?! Of course, he's not an English teacher, but still! It's the double vowel rule for ly suffix! Drop the e and add ly. How hard is that to understand when it's beaten into you since first grade?
I love (note sarcasm) how they use the changing of words like centre to center as justification. Half the reason for that was to separate American writing from British writing (the changed actually started before the 1864 date the article mentions, if I remember correctly).
And Smith really needs fired, or taken back to grade school...
"In the 21st century, why learn by heart rote spelling when you can just type it into a computer and spell-check?" he asks.
Better yet, why not learn it the right way to begin with, instead of using spell-check as a crutch? Don't get me wrong, I have no problem with using spell-check, especially for unfamiliar words and quick proofreading (the human mind tends to add words or letters that aren't there, after all), but not as a primary teaching method, which is what he seems to be implying, the poor computer can only go so far in guessing what you're really looking for.
Like you, I had spelling tests in school, though mine was through middle school (7th grade, I think, though they did back off on it in 6th grade), but even after we stopped having spelling tests, we were always docked for spelling mistakes. The way our tests were done in elementary school was that we were given a list of words on Friday or Monday (I don't remember which) and we had to look up the definition and write the words and definitions, as well as an example sentence (to show that we understood how to use the word) for Wednesday. On Thursday, we'd have a practice test. Anyone who got a perfect score didn't have to take the "actual" test on Friday. For the tests, the teacher would read the word out loud (if there were homonyms in the list, the definition or an example sentence as well) and we would write them down on a piece of paper.
I never failed a spelling test and was often called upon to help the students with learning disabilities do their tests and to grade the tests of my other fellow students
My schools did the same, and with quite a few different subjects (mainly multiple guess and fill in the blank tests). Even my college has a program that has students grading other students' homework (tests are often multiple guess and done with a Scantron system, kind of like standardized tests).
It doesn't help that teachers and schools are pressured to pass people to the next grade (or even graduation) who shouldn't be passed or shouldn't graduate.
I am treated as evil by people who claim that they are being oppressed because they are not allowed to force me to practice what they do. ~D. Dale Gulledge
I have alot of bad days when I comment where I just can't spell and I get lazy. Google is wonderful though. Just type a word in the search and it will bring up the real spelling. I used to be very comment happy. My english teacher painfully pointed that out. I learned that most comment come before but, and, and I think therefore. Something like that.
I have no choice, but to type my blogs in works because my computer is so sensitive it has deleted an entire 100 million word blog that I have wrote. After letting it happen to my dumbass for awhile, and after almost smashing my computer I started doing my blogs there. I spend alot more time on my blogs now and try to reword things. I will also reword words that I can't spell sometimes if spell check is being stupid.
Sorry to disappoint you, but I am voting for Lewis Black.
DrifterDani~
mvenus929 is my comma catcher. She's always like "Fallon, you don't need a comma here, here, here, here, here or there either." I should be paying her an editing fee, I think. But, she hasn't demanded it yet so I'm cheaping (two other bad habits... being cheap and using words that aren't really words, teehee) my way through until she tells me to go take a comma class. I love her for it.
:D
It really is pretty bad though. I've taken to reading everything out loud so I can catch some of those commas. Some days it works better than others, but I'm trying! So, I can sympathize with people that do try and still have issues... but there just really isn't an excuse in most instances for spelling. Like you pointed out, you can Google the Internets (yeah!) or simply use a different word. Simply making no attempt, however, is where one loses my sympathy.
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Your comma use really is bad.... but me charging for my work would take all the fun out of telling you what to do :P And, you know, other than all the commas you put in (and the occasional date mixup you do on press releases), you're a very good writer. So I generally enjoy reading your writing, as opposed to someone whose writing gives me a headache. I'll charge them for my trouble long before I start charging you :)
~C
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I wonder if they have a 12 step comma program? And thank you :) I'm glad that, even with the commas and the date mixups, I don't give you headaches. Well, that my writing doesn't give you headaches. I won't assume any further than that
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I have often been irritated by the people that use any excuse they can find to be lazy with anything. Language especially. Grrr-ness. Yes, that is a made up word to express what I feel. =P
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Growing up I was always a horrible speller, and dreaded anything resembling a spelling test. I have to sound out "Feb-ru-ary" to spell it correct, the only way I learned how to spell "school" was by someone telling me to remember "school's not cool" (I always crossed the c and h), and I still can't keep track of patience and patients. Though I still can't spell very well I quickly learned what those red underlines in most word processors mean, as well as learning how to use a dictionary. More recently I was ecstatic to find out Firefox has a spell checker add-on, so I can easily check my spelling even in short comments.
While in many ways it would make my life easier if spelling were a free for all without so many rules, I hate trying to read things that people haven't bothered to spell check. How hard is it to look at what words have a red underline before you share your writing? I also find it interesting to learn about the history of words and how different words are connected by distinct patterns in their spelling, which would be lost if we simplified the spellings for all the people too lazy to try to spell it right.
"Life is too short to make just one decision
Music's too large for just one station
Love is too big for just one nation and
God is too big for just one religion"
-Michael Franti and Spearhead "East to the West"
IF everyone is here *holds hand at the floor* but we expect them to be here *holds hand at the ceiling* we can just average it out to about here *holds hand an inch off the floor* and then everyone is doing above average!!! :-)
If you can't spell February, then you've got bigger issues. Like, have you never seen the old Sandy Claws movie where the groundhog sinces about how he comes out? The one with Mr. Ice Meister and Mr. Heat Meister? "Feb-ru-ary t-ooo"
-acertainsaint-
I hate it when businesses spell things wrong on signs. Recently, our apartment complex had a "$99 Move's You In!" sign posted near the entrance. I nearly vomited each time I drove by. Each month, we're also plagued with spell-check free newsletters and announcements on our door.
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Ouch! I just toss out the crap our apartment sends if it isn't spelling error free. My husband takes perverse pleasure in taking photographs of misspellings on signs to show me when I'm not there to see them myself. He thinks watching my head revolve while I scream like the Exorcist chick is highly amusing. When I start spewing bullet speed stomach contents, he'll quit.
(I hope).
We should start the "Error Free Sign" Campaign and write letters to businesses with shitty signs.
"Deer Sers,
Ure speeling sukz. Fist it plees."
Think they'd get it?
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"Life is too short to make just one decision
Music's too large for just one station
Love is too big for just one nation and
God is too big for just one religion"
-Michael Franti and Spearhead "East to the West"
I always wundered where thos e-mails came frum.
Welcom to the produck of the no child left behind land.
Seriously, is your husband recording this, I have never seen anyone’s "head revolve while scream[ing] like the Exorcist chick ... [and] spewing bullet speed stomach contents"
What rock did these people come from? OOo I know the one that requires higher test score with no added funds or effort. Imagine how much we can save if all words have variances and we could fire all the teachers. This is almost as annoying as school papers written in textese.
~T
A nation of well informed men who have been taught to know and prize the rights which God has given them cannot be enslaved. It is in the region of ignorance that tyranny begins. ~Benjamin Franklin
Hahahahaha...go fist your spelling. Lmfao.
Didn't you mean ficks you're spelengs?
-acertainsaint-
Fist can be taken so many different ways though.
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My favorite mistake is as follows:
There stuff is over their.
-acertainsaint-
That's a pretty good one. Mine is from a sign on a tattoo parlor during the storms here last winter.
"We our close do to the storms."
?!?!
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I don't think I want them tattooing anything on me, if their signs are like that, at least not words, anyway.
I am treated as evil by people who claim that they are being oppressed because they are not allowed to force me to practice what they do. ~D. Dale Gulledge
If you go to failblog.org and search tattoo it will come up with some crazy spelling mistakes on tattoos. That would suck soooo bad to have a misspelled tattoo.
...You Know You Wanna...
My boyfriend's brother is a tattoo artist. He requires that people bring in a photo, or drawing of an exact copy of what they want, to ensure people get what they want.
Last year, someone came in with a small sheet of paper saying "foresakin", which he wanted on his arm. Shawn tried to tell him that he thought it should look more like "forsaken", but the man didn't believe him so he just did the man wanted.
:))
How much would it suck to have a tattoo with the wrong spelling on it?!!!?!?
My boyfriend decided he'd just stick with a picture for his :D
Peace and Love,
DaniLiz
A child can make a mistake in spelling I can forgive that they are learning how to spell. An adult I have to wonder why. I use word to edit all my writings and I still use the wrong word or I fat finger a word and make it misspelled or misused. My wife is great at checking over my work so I do not sound like an idiot. I write like a talk and you can not see emotion in black and white words.
I would like to see if maybe most of the spelling mistake come from using the phone texting, using short words or just the first letter, has screwed up young people. Well what the older people who still run into this problem. I say it is still part of that in my younger years I spent a lot of time on the computer in the chat rooms using things like “LOL” instead of laugh out loud (who really says that) and slang terms like these are not helping us.
Maybe I am wrong they are only words their feeling will not be hurt if we use “ur” instead of you’re/you are. What does that say about us as a country when push comes to shove we go for the easy way out. We are the country that came up with a pen that could write in zero gravity instead of just using a pencil.
We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.~ The Preamble
It’s the degradation of society's language skills. February is hard to spell because everybody says ‘febuary’. And you know you call it a ‘libary’ when it supposed to be the ‘library’. This has been a problem long before the cell phone texting and instant messaging problem. It really comes down to being lazy or a speech impediment (given my two examples have a missing ‘r’).
We do not hold people to a higher standard because we have total tolerance and empathy confused.
~T
A nation of well informed men who have been taught to know and prize the rights which God has given them cannot be enslaved. It is in the region of ignorance that tyranny begins. ~Benjamin Franklin
Yeah I will try not to give them another reason to be lazy. I am a harsh judge of my own writing and I am far from perfect as my wife can tell you. I just wanted to mention another reason for some bad writing I have seen as of late. Most of what I have seen comes from an unapproved version of short hand like; LOL, LMAO, UR, L8, pic, and b4 and the list goes on. It is when this get used in more important writing that I have a problem with them.
We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.~ The Preamble
Don't forget that we don't want to offend those willfully ignorant by pointing out that they might be *gasp!* wrong about something!
I am treated as evil by people who claim that they are being oppressed because they are not allowed to force me to practice what they do. ~D. Dale Gulledge
*Gasp!* I am never wrong!
You saying you're willfully ignorant?
I am treated as evil by people who claim that they are being oppressed because they are not allowed to force me to practice what they do. ~D. Dale Gulledge
I'm saying I am God.
I admit, I occasionally publish something with a spelling mistake or two. Nine times out of ten, it got underlined when I was writing it, but I didn't want to stop my flow to stop and fix it, and ended up forgetting by the end. The other time, I try to spell something, and misspell it, but my computer doesn't give me a choice of words I want. That's when I start to wonder if I'm making up words.
But, I do try to learn from my mistakes, even if it takes me forever. I try to point them out to people in a friendly way, so they can learn as well. It doesn't always work that way, but I try. People really shouldn't be so lazy as to put out simple spelling errors. It shows a lot about the willful ignorance of our nation, and their drive to truly be the best nation on Earth....
~C
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The February thing really makes me laugh. Within my dialect, we actually pronounce that first r.
I'm in too good a mood to rant about how ridiculous it is to accommodate laziness in such a way, and I think you pretty much said in this blog what I would say anyway. But I've misspelled at least five words in the typing of this comment, and am eternally grateful for Firefox's built in spell-checker.
And this blog reminds me of my backwards family. My mom is one of those people who can't spell. She at least tries to figure it out, even if that means asking me at 11 at night, "How do you spell this word?" But, and this is funny, she is killer in Scrabble. I, the family dictionary, have yet to win against her. I suppose she's just trying harder due to her competitive nature, which, as you pointed out, will make a world of difference. I now feel like telling the nation, "Look, if my mom, who can't spell words such as license, can whoop my butt in a game of Scrabble and win by more than 100 points, that's proof enough that spelling really isn't that hard. So get over it, and buy a dictionary or something."
And that's comin' at ya' from yer local redneck hippie.
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I hate spell check. Every time I see an underlined word I cringe and just delete and add letters until I get it right. Tonight, I had a very stressful spelling issue. "Disintegrated" was the the word I couldn't wrap my fingers around. Just because it SOUNDED to me as if it should begin "DEC" and have an omitted "T" doesn't mean the rules on spelling it should be changed.
People are ridiculous and ignorant. It really bothers me.
At this rate, maybe I can convince my Music Theory teacher that though SHE thinks a Major Five chord reads an uppercase "V", she shouldn't deduct points from our tests since writing a lower case "v" is a common mistake.
I'll let you know how that goes for me.
-- Amber
http://www.progressiveu.org/blog/akoenig
rofl
I'd love to see how that one goes over!
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I had an exboyfriend who spelled EVERYTHING wrong. It truly amazed the words he could come up with. I don't think I ever saw him spell a 3 syllable or more word correctly. Simple things like "driveing" or "wich" or "cimanin" (that's cinnamon, by the way) drove me crazy. It ultimately lead to, first, my lack of reading any of his writings to me and eventually, when I realized that his speech was just a bad, if not worse, a total destruction of our relationship.
The only reason HE was able to do so well in school was that he was an athlete (sp). I know this for a fact, mind you, because I've had his teachers and I've compared our work. I remember pulling out a paper I handed in a year before he did, on the same topic, to the same teacher. There were absolutely no read marks on my paper, but I only got a B+, while his was covered in them, but he got an A-. He was convinced it was because his was "more interesting".
It's just a thought, but a lot of people have grown up believing that, if they have other skills, they don't need to try in things that are important...say.... in the real world. They honestly don't think the things you learn in school will ever matter so they don't bother integrating them into their lives.
Spell check is God; learn it, live it, love it.
Peace and Love,
DaniLiz
P.S. I have a lot of trouble with comma splicing too! You're not alone on that!
The first thing that popped into my mind when reading this was a "paper" that was read in a social studies class in 6th grade (or somewhere around there) about the Lewis and Clarke expedition. Apparently, Clarke (I believe it was him) used something close to 12 different spellings of the word "Sioux" in the same journal entry. Now, that's just plain creative.
The most annoying thing to me, however, is an entry without any semblance of punctuation coming withing five miles of the writing. Not just too many commas, mind you, but the hardcore stuff, such as going an entire blog entry without using one period. *Gr@kt#p$!*
"The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore all progress depends on the unreasonable man."
- George Bernard Shaw
This is totally unrelated to the post, but have I told you I like the quote in your signature?
"Live above money; put your heart in front of you and follow it."
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Haha, yeah. George Bernard Shaw has to be one of my favorite sources of quotes, along with Bill Watterson (Author of Calvin and Hobbes) and Richard Feynman.
Some other brilliant Shaw quotes include:
-When a thing is funny, search it carefully for a hidden truth.
-The fact that a believer is happier than a skeptic is no more to the point than the fact that a drunken man is happier than a sober one.
-A fashion is nothing but an induced epidemic.
-Americans adore me and will go on adoring me until I say something nice about them.
-And My personal favorite: The worst sin toward our fellow creatures is not to hate them, but to be indifferent to them: that's the essence of inhumanity.
Genius.
"The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore all progress depends on the unreasonable man."
- George Bernard Shaw
The most annoying thing to me, however, is an entry without any semblance of punctuation coming withing five miles of the writing.
I've seen far too many of those, not just here, but some in nearly every blogging community I've been in. The sad part is that any time you try to say something, you get back something along the lines of "this ain't English class!" It's sad to see how many people don't care that they're coming off like a child or just plain foolish. They don't seem to realize that what they say on blogs, forums, and other online communities very well could come back to haunt them as more and more employers (and other info-seekers) start using them to find other aspects of people.
I am treated as evil by people who claim that they are being oppressed because they are not allowed to force me to practice what they do. ~D. Dale Gulledge
Anal-retentive much?
Language is a dynamic force of creativity. Even if the "evil ones" didn't purposely have that in mind, as long as you understood their point then their "dire mistakes" truly don't matter one bit.
Anal-retentive much?
Absolutely.
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O, happy the soul that saw its own faults -Rumi
People of the world don't look at themselves, and so they blame one another -Rumi
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