Microbiology, Vivisection, Derrick Jensen

carrot's picture

So, I guess I just want to share some randomish thoughts with everyone (as usual.) I've begun two things in the last few days; Derrick Jensen's book "A Language Older then Words," and the first Microbiology class I've ever taken, indeed, if you went to my high school you might agree the first exposure to Biology; period.

Anyway, for those not familiar with Derrick Jensen, he writes largely about the violence in our culture, from the products we buy that support child slavery, to the fact that one in three women in our culture will be raped in her lifetime (one in three! I know fact to be true; I have one sister who was raped more then once and another one who was date-raped,) to vivisection, to slaughterhouses and so forth. Now, I am no vegan saint (I'm thankful to the vegans I know who show that it is possible, that a kinder lifestyle exists,) by any stretch of the imagination; in fact, this winter I've been pretty damn carnivorous, something that often happens to me in winter, when the plants go dormant and nothing green is to be found, or at least, where I grew up in Upstate New York, that was the case. Apologies to the vegans, but eating tofu and temphe for protein doesn't seem natural to me; especially when that tofu and temphe was grown god-knows where, over processed and then shipped to god-knows where so we can eat it. In the winter I prefer to eat "winter foods," especially squash, potatoes and venison.

This winter, not being in upstate redneck, hillbilly New York where a hunter-friend could bring me venison, I ate slaughterhouse meat. I felt guilty and I could picture the animals crying as they where slaughtered, but I ate it anyway. And as I ate each and every turkey burger, chicken in soups and buffalo meatballs in my pasta, I wondered "what can I be doing differently?" I know that eventually, I will have to learn to hunt. I can no longer rely upon others to bring me venison; I can no longer eat that which I did not kill, in my own way, with thanksgiving and prayers of gratitude to the animals I slay...so anyway, it is time to learn the skills of the huntress.

So I found it odd, while sitting in Microbiology yesterday, to find myself feeling pity for all the microbes we kill in our culture, with antibiotics, with antivirals and so forth. I found myself wondering if the microbes we kill have a culture of their own; a culture we are not
aware of, because we are too large to appreciate it. Could this be? Is it violence to kill bacteria that are setting up their own villages and communities in/on our bodies? I wonder how very strict vegans, the ones who won't eat bread because it involves killing yeast, feel about this. I feel certain they probably don't take antibiotics. I know many of my vegan friends and many of my friends in general chose probiotics when they are feeling sick to antibiotics, culturing helpful bacterium in their bodies, which theoretically replace the "bad bacteria" but I am not sure if this is a general statement of having faith in their bodies, not wanting to kill bacteria, not liking Big Pharma, or a combination of all of these.

In any case, I know, I've felt strange before killing microbes in my body, like "who am I to decide these creatures who have made me their ecosystem should perish?" It seems very strange to me that we have that option. My body isn't really my body you see; as I see it, it belongs to the greater ecosystem around me; it belongs to the Earth.

Anyway, taking Microbiology in conjunction with reading Derrick Jensen and studying rewilding and primitivism with my neighborhood should prove to bring along many opportunities to explore more deeply how I feel about these things. I'm glad I had the opportunity yesterday, for example, to swab my vagina and see what little microbes call this part of the Universe home.

Love ya,\
Carrot

bungeecord's picture
Member of the Progressive U Alumni Association

It's cool how you weaved the two topics together. I felt nice and mellow reading your blog until you shocked with the vagina swab twist. Thanks for jerking me out of mellowness. : P

www.progressiveu.org/blog/americangirlinchina

bridge's picture
Volunteer for the Progressive U Alumni Association

I don't feel bad killing bacteria in my body if they are harmful to me. Survival of the fittest afterall...

You're going to learn to hunt and not for sport. I applaud you.

~ *~

Visit my blog! I'll even provide a link for ya:

  • http://www.progressiveu.org/blog/bridge
  • Comments are always appreciated! :)

    mvenus929's picture
    Managing Director of Progressive U

    Yeah, we did throat cultures in our micro class. Our urine samples were simulated, as will our fecal matter samples be next week.

    It's ridiculous to desire so strongly to not kill anything, since that's just another part of life. It's ridiculous that a person would not want to wash their hands for fear of killing a bunch of microbes, and not being willing to take antibiotics if it will save their lives. Bacteria grow by the millions, and are killed very quickly. I can understand not wanting to eat things like slaughterhouse animals, because they are treated very poorly before and during the slaughtering process, but going to the extent of not eating bread because it will kill some yeast doesn't make much sense to me.

    ~C
    Check out the latest entry in the Between The Lines column!
    Want the highest rated list to change? RATE those blogs, then!

    bungeecord's picture
    Member of the Progressive U Alumni Association

    While I wouldn't stop eating bread either, I think the people that fight for what they believe in to the extreme degree have an important role. They set the bar high and get us thinking. I find that it makes me get off my butt more than I would have otherwise.

    www.progressiveu.org/blog/americangirlinchina

    mvenus929's picture
    Managing Director of Progressive U

    Well, here's the thing. By sneezing, you are killing microbes. Sneezing isn't exactly something you have control over. By excreting waste, you are killing some microbes. By cleaning your kitchen counter, you are killing microbes. And on and on and on. So to say that you refuse to take antibiotics for a bug that is killing you, or that you won't eat bread because you'd be killing some microbes is silly to me.

    Additionally, while I fully support their choice to not eat whatever they don't want to eat, by saying that they refuse to eat any meat, anything other than fruits and seeds (which you don't have to kill the plant to get) is saying that bison are wrong for eating grasses, that woodpeckers are wrong for eating bugs, that tigers are wrong for hunting meat. Killing things is part of the natural cycle. I'm not sure where we fit into that cycle, since our industries have kinda ruined the true food pyramid, but I hardly think it's accurate to say that we're wrong for eating meat or vegetables, or even bread.

    ~C
    Check out the latest entry in the Between The Lines column!
    Want the highest rated list to change? RATE those blogs, then!

    carrot's picture
    Member of the Progressive U Alumni Association

    Derrick Jensen's book was the perfect thing to blend in with Microbiology, because the entire book is basically about how far we will go to combat violence; the author himself struggles with eating meat and how to ethically do so. Janists in India sweep the ground before them to avoid stepping on any little bugs; they only eat food that has already dropped to the ground from trees, bushes etc. That is pretty extreme,and obviously not everyone can live that way (for one thing, there probably isn't enough fruit that falls off trees for everyone,) but I for one am glad these Peace Warriors exist. They challenge me to think about every action I take as well. I love the vegans who take it as far as not eating bread; I love the Peta activists who protest fur, I love the Animal Liberation Front and the Earth Liberation Front. I saw a boy the other day with ELF stenciled onto his patched up hoodie; he had a purposeful march to his step, ironically, he was in a mall....anyway, just seeing those little letters put a smile on my face. I thought to myself "there goes an environmental terrorist...awesome!"

    I believe we need these radical people as much in our culture as we need sunlight and air; as much as we need artists, musicians, writers and indeed, the Paris Hilton's of the world. Paris reminds me in a radically different way of who I want to be; she is on the other extreme from the ELF-boy. But they both help me navigate this increasingly confusing world and figure out where I want to be and how I can help the Earth.

    I myself will not give up trying to kill microbes; nor do I plan on wearing a fox-fur coat anytime soon (unless I trapped, skinned and ate the fox.) I live somewhere in the middle; but I have nothing but love for the radicals out there who remind me daily about what matters.

    Love to all the radicals,
    Carrot

    bungeecord's picture
    Member of the Progressive U Alumni Association

    I totally agree. I'm just saying that the extreme-minded folk help me decide where that place is that you speak of. I'm not sure where humans fit in yet, but I think it's somewhere just below the extreme end.

    www.progressiveu.org/blog/americangirlinchina

    Comment viewing options

    Select your preferred way to display the comments and click "Save settings" to activate your changes.