Some of you know me very well, and others of you don't. Some of the members on my Buddy List at this site have been chatting/blogging/debating with me for over a year now while others have come about only a few weeks ago. To those of you who know me, this post will probably not shock you in the least.
For those of you who don't know me or have not taken the time to get to know me (by reading my blogs) - this might come as a bit of a shock. But let me introduce myself...
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I am a Pagan. I believe in a hierarchy of Gods. Do not confuse me with the view of Wicca - because I am not Wiccan. I do not believe in "Harm None"; I do not believe in a three-fold law.
I believe if you kick me I will kick you back. I believe in an eye for an eye. And I believe that if it is within my power to deliver that eye, I will do so in full force. If I cannot, then my Gods will.
I believe we are all placed here to learn lessons about how to live with the divine; and if we screw it up we will be sent back here to try again until we eventually figure it all out. I believe that we should all be living with nature rather than working against her. (To clarify, this does not mean that I believe we should all be living in little grass huts and letting animals overpopulate the Earth because we shouldn't be eating meat. But I believe we shouldn't work against nature - if Nature made you a certain way, then stop denying her plan and live that way!)
I believe in justice and balance. I believe in reincarnation and second chances.
I will never try and convert you, change you, or make you change your mind. I will never call you stupid if you believe in something different.
I believe that if you don't agree with me, I could give a rat's ass.
And I believe that if one more Christian tries to "save" me, my head will explode --
How is any of this Progressive? I'll tell you; These beliefs are ingrained. They made me the person I am today, and they help determine the person I will be tomorrow. These beliefs helped to define the lessons I've learned from various events in my life. In many ways, these beliefs have given me strength to overcome the many things that have been thrown at me in my life.
Many of these beliefs dictate my stance as pro-choice, pro-gun, and pro-same-sex marriage. If you're willing to take on the consequences of an abortion or of a pregnancy, then make your choice. If someone tries to kill you, shoot them. And if Nature made you homosexual, then By Gods fall in love with whomever you feel natural with and be happy! If you feel comfortable eating meat and can accept the consequences, such as the potential dangers of E-Coli or salmonella, then eat meat! If you feel more natural eating vegetables or plants only - then go eat your lawn.
That, right there, should tell you a lot about me. An eye for an eye - the punishment should fit the crime and Karma will either bitch-slap you or reward you depending on your actions. If you can't deal with the consequences, then don't do it - end of story.
And I believe that every Christian who posts a statement of faith does so with the same meaning and intentions behind it. Being "Progressive" is not only about political and society-wide issues. Each of us, on a community level and on an individual level, plays a role in society. That role is, often times, derived from our beliefs - regardless of where these beliefs originated from - be it from a book or from nature. And regardless if their beliefs effect families across the nation or just their own.
And finally, I believe that the "Anti-Christians" or other people who might be suffering from "Christian-Phobia" should allow their own statements of faith speak for themselves. It's no one's responsibility to prove to the world how any one religion is wrong any more than it's a person's responsibility to prove to the world that a religion is right. Statements of faith are not about proving which religion is right or which religion is wrong...
They're about portraying your beliefs to the world and allowing them to provide an insight into your life and your views thereof.
That... is progressive.
Not that I want to see 50 blogs being posted by everyone entitled "This is my statement of Faith" - let's be reasonable. But I believe that those people who would attack a blogger for posting such a statement of faith should first actually read that statement and learn about the author rather than just attacking and claiming them to be "un-progressive" or "irrelevant." If done correctly, statements of faith are just as important as any other political blog entry posted.
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Just a note:
There is a difference between a statement of faith and obvious recruitment. I'm tired of others warning I am going to hell, or that they can save my soul if only I will bow to the will of God and be a Christian. These posts are NOT Progressive.
I will not become a member of any religion based on exclusion and genocide.
That's my belief.
ATTACK, ATTACK, ATTACK
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I posted something about what I believed. I think it was called My Morals. People still argued either that I was immoral or that my morals were the result of being raised in a Chrsitan nation.
I don't think I've seen many posts that are just what that person believes, although I have seen a few and I haven't responded to those the same way I responded to ones that try and sell their beliefs, but I'll still bring up issues that I have with what people believe.
"A casual stroll through the lunatic asylum shows that faith does not prove anything."
Friedrich Nietzsche
That's so weird. Many of our beliefs are the same yet we believe in different religions. The only major difference would be the "eye for an eye" thing. Most Buddhists are supposed to "forgive" the other person if they ever get into conflicts. My philosophy teacher once told me that "eye for an eye" justice resembles revenge than defense. And maybe he was right. At the same time, it is logical to seek revenge if someone did something to you. Or else they'll keep on taking advantage of you right?
But I love you for who you are anyway!! Actually, I don't mind seeing more of blogs about our members' faith. I think it would be interesting to learn about each other this way.
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Progressive is standing for something positive.
Some of the most commonly held values are the best ones.
Once again a very nice piece of reason, and progressive tollerence.
It's interesting to hear another religions point of view. Very educaitonal
Good post. I'm sure I've been less than understanding to a few Christians before. It's just a reflex I guess. Although I don't see anything wrong with dissecting a person's beliefs. After all, if someone posts a statement of faith, it's usually meant to generate some kind of conversation. I think we mostly agree on everything except for hierarchy of gods and "eye for an eye". Revenge always makes me feel worse afterwards. I think you did a good job of explaining your beliefs. Whenever I tell someone I'm a Pagan I tend to go into my opinions about every little thing that's ever crossed my mind. it usually leaves people more confused than to start.
I agree with truelife90. I actually wouldn't mind hearing more about people's faiths. But it just seems that we only hear from Christians, except for tabias.
Just one question, could you explain what you mean by hierarchy of gods? I don't believe in any hierarchy at all, but I've heard other Pagans say they do and i was wondering exactly what they believed about the gods.
it's not real, not even if you really really believe. - Hyde, That 70's Show
You obviously haven't been here long enough. I have a number of posts in my past that demonstrate my departure from Christianity over the past year. DB, percivale, and others have all posted some sort of commentary explaining their moral base (as they are atheists).
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I know I've seen similar posts from DB and Percivale. Maybe I've missed yours.
it's not real, not even if you really really believe. - Hyde, That 70's Show
Everything that I type is anti-Christian/anti-religion.
Nicholas Aden
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I think perhaps I've been seeing too much from true believer lately.
it's not real, not even if you really really believe. - Hyde, That 70's Show
I wrote them like a year ago... they're really old.
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I agree with this blog because I'm like Fanaile Essence because I'm open to other people's religions and won't attack anybody by what things they believe in.
Read my blog!
But I want a little grass hut!
and a castle!
and a tree house!
...would it be progressive to say that yesterday I liked cookies and today I like them more? I have faith in the cookies! They're the only way to salvation!!
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"In the Land of Memory, the time is always Now.
In the Kingdom of Ago, the clocks tick... but their hands never move.
There is an Unfound Door
(O Lost)
and memory is the key which opens it." -King
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Hello?
Spaghetti is far superior to cookies, and will sustain you much longer at the end of days.
Duh.
Where's the Beef?
Meatloaf rules all... :)
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"when you have nothing else to say, "Fwonk" is always the perfect thing."
"yeah well, fwonk"
--Devon
Fanaile Essence,
A-Team Member
:( Now I want meatloaf.
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"In the Land of Memory, the time is always Now.
In the Kingdom of Ago, the clocks tick... but their hands never move.
There is an Unfound Door
(O Lost)
and memory is the key which opens it." -King
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Spaghetti has balls. Two giant fucking balls. Of meat. Two giant fucking meatballs. There's your beef.
Nicholas Aden
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Hell yes... I love meatballs. Seriously. That's my kind of beef!
Nu-uh. I eat spaghetti and then get hungry again an hour later. But with two cookies, I'm good for half a day! Just think what I could do with a whole PACKAGE of yummy, crumbly chocolaty goodness :D
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"In the Land of Memory, the time is always Now.
In the Kingdom of Ago, the clocks tick... but their hands never move.
There is an Unfound Door
(O Lost)
and memory is the key which opens it." -King
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make chocolate chip cookies all the time and put little signs by them that read "Eat cookies for world peace!" Cookies are the way to salvation!
Love,
Sycamore Fitch
Heh...I like the way you think. Could be why you and Fallon fire me everyday.
Nicholas Aden
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btw... You're fired :D
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"In the Land of Memory, the time is always Now.
In the Kingdom of Ago, the clocks tick... but their hands never move.
There is an Unfound Door
(O Lost)
and memory is the key which opens it." -King
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Your statement: I am a Pagan. (I believe in an eye for an eye. And I believe that if it is within my power to deliver that eye, I will do so in full force. If I cannot, then my Gods will )
An eye for an eye how terrible .I see that you have not learned to ignore those that would offend you. For why would you cause pain to you own soul .And hold hatred in your heart to your enemies. Your God will not be there, when you will need him the most in your life. Because he is a deceiver and a liar. For he teaches you nothing that is true about your true and living God who is your heavenly Father that Loves you and Gave you life eternal If you except him in your life. Seek for the truth, your soul is precious to your heavenly Father. Amen
I think this is the sort of intolerance she's speaking of.
There is a time and a place, but you must always be respectful. I'm Christian, too, and I find this comment from you, True Believer, very disrespectful.
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Thank you for saying this. I heartily concur. And I'm literate.
Lol... it took me a minute to understand what you were getting at with your "literate" line, but now that my stupid-block has lifted, I think it was very clever :) lol
I don't want to say that I'm embarrassed by people of my faith, but...
Well, I am.
It hurts because yes, of course I believe that it is my "job" to try to "bring people" to Jesus. I kind of have to believe that if I truly believe in my faith, lol. But it makes me so angry that people such as true believer don't realize that there is a time, a place, and a way to speak to people.
Pouring stuff like this down people's throats is not the way to "convert" them.
I hope this isn't coming off the wrong way... basically, what I mean is I am embarrassed, as a Christian, that other Christians make us look so horrible.
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I'm glad you can recognize the difference between being embarrassed for your faith (which you should never be) and embarrassed for those who poorly represent it (which is too bad).
I wish more Christians were like you. The world would be a better place.
Tell me how then, How are people to learn the Truth. IF WE DO NOT SPEAK OUT .YES IT HURTS, BUT IT IS THE TRUTH. IT WAS THE SAME WITH JESUS CHRIST WHEN HE SPOKE TO THE PEOPLE PLAIN AND SIMPLE to there understanding.. DID IT OFFEND THE PEOPLE TO HERE THE WORDS OF HIS Father yes. BECAUSE OF THERE WAYS. WERE THEY ANGRY. Yes That is why they Killed him, And they new that they would have to change there ways, and they did not want nothing to do with that .Amen
So you think that you are going to turn people on to Christianity by pissing them off?
Sorry, but we're in the 21st century. That doesn't really happen, my friend.
You can't tell someone "You're going to hell" and expect them to say "Ohmigosh! You're right! I have to convert right now!!!!!!"
You have to learn that being pushy with that "holier than thou" attitude is not the way to get what you want.
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THAT IS UPSET IS YOU .
Can you please rephrase that? I didn't understand what you were trying to say. I don't mean that in any harsh way, just that I don't understand
And if you're trying to condemn me, save it. I already know the truth, and I know this is not the way to get people to believe in Jesus.
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THEN YOU MUST KNOW THAT GODS PROPHET DID THE SAME. WHY SHOW SIMPATHY TO ONE THAT IS DECIVED .DID GOD THROU HIS PROPHETS SAY OK PEOPLE ,I KNOW THAT MANY OF YOU HERE ARE DOING WRONG BUT ITS OK BUT THE TRUTH IS THIS YOU, YOU, AND YOU ,ARE FOLLOWING THE TREDITIONS OF WICKED PEOPLE SO YOU SHOULD DO AS I SAY, AND FOLLOW GOD .NOT LIKELY. PEOPLE ARE TO FEEL OF THERE GUILT SO THAT THEY MAY KNOW THAT THEY ARE TO CHANGE TODAY AND NOT TOMORROW. Amen
STOP WRITING IN CAPS. IT IS HOSTILE. THANK YOU.
WHY SHOW SIMPATHY TO ONE THAT IS DECIVED WHY?! Because you are a Christian, and you are told to be compassionate. You are told to be understanding. And most of all, you are taught forgiveness. You appear to have none of those things by the way you are speaking.
Why should I do as you say? You spout hateful things to people, turning them off to God. How do you know that I won't be so turned off to Christianity by you that I just stop believing all-together?
Some people need reinforcement in their faith, and you are not offering that. To doubt at times is to have complete faith in something. Yes, even God.
I'm willing to bet that most people on the planet will not listen to your mindless ranting and raving. They will only be more turned off to the faith. Because of you, and the way you feel it is necessary to be so hateful and demanding.
I'm also willing to bet that if anyone is on the cusp of "converting," if they heard they way you go on and on about nothing, they probably would choose that Christianity just wasn't the right thing for them. I know I would think that way.
If you truly believe you are here on Earth to tell people about the joys of Christ, then maybe you should be a little more joyful.
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this is war. every line is about who i don't wanna write about anymore. [Brand New]
http://progressiveu.org/143541-how-to-survive-the-2008-elections
Please refrain from using caps. It's considered shouting and has a tendency to cause a rapid degrade in discussion, particularly those of the religious flavor.
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"In the Land of Memory, the time is always Now.
In the Kingdom of Ago, the clocks tick... but their hands never move.
There is an Unfound Door
(O Lost)
and memory is the key which opens it." -King
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I did not know that.
I'm upset.
And I'm a potential convertee.
I'm offended by your blasphemous icon.
Nicholas Aden
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Suck it up.
I love this.
You know, if I were less ethical, I'd go into your account and replace your picture with the FSM.
Nicholas Aden
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Death or a near-death beat down would quickly ensue.
Good thing you're not a damn cheater.
Bring it! bitch....
Nicholas Aden
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Oh, I already brought it!
Oh Yeah?! Come on! I could take your horny ass any day!
Nicholas Aden
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No way.
My desires as followed by Her Horniness far exceed your ability to satiate me.
You've never had a noodle, have you? You never know WHAT I might be doing....
Nicholas Aden
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I should hope not.
It sounds awkward.
Putting it mildly
"A casual stroll through the lunatic asylum shows that faith does not prove anything."
Friedrich Nietzsche
I'm fucking amazing with a noodle. ;-)
Nicholas Aden
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I bet.
haha...
Nicholas Aden
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Why do you state; lunatic asylum To refer that there be no God. I know that your going to say that If god was real, that people would not suffer in any asylum and that there would be no such sickness. because we would all be well .remember it is not God that created these Illness in people, it is man with all there contamination upon the earth. And the poisons that are put on our crops .and all the dangers that are in our homes and in all of our foods, all sorts of cleaning materials that cause so many people to be sick. So here is your answer to your question. People fault not God .remember this always . Just to Add drugs and booze in the world now who’s fault MAN. And everyone that has created a danger’s substances will stand before god to answer him why they new that dangers and yet still gave it the people.
How do you know?
Nicholas Aden
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I'm going to respond below because we've run out of room.
"A casual stroll through the lunatic asylum shows that faith does not prove anything."
Friedrich Nietzsche
First, believing in equality, balance, and justice does not make me a terrible person.
And, TrueBeliever - it should not shock you that much - Levitcus preaches an eye for an eye (read up on it, Leviticus 24:20
So if it's good enough for Christians, why do you concemn me for it?
Speaking of condemning me... Are you God? Are you my God? Are you any of my Gods?
Then excuse the phrasing, but how can you presume to know any divine plan as to which God would be there for me and which God wouldn't?
Isn't that a sin? To assume that you know God's plan and pass judgement on me?
Yes yes - I believe it is...
If you're going to preach "truth" my suggestion is to learn and abide by that "truth"...
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"when you have nothing else to say, "Fwonk" is always the perfect thing."
"yeah well, fwonk"
--Devon
Fanaile Essence,
A-Team Member
I condemn know one. Did Jesus condemn any one. No. So why would you say that I have condemn you . If anyone feel of there Guilt, it is because the Lord want you to know the truth. I only speak the truth and we all must seek for the truth .Remember I condemn you not .But just to let you know, that the truth is out there and we need to seek for it our selves. Amen
I call bullshit!
You blatantly told me that my God would not be there when I needed him most. Outright - you might as well have just said I was going to Hell (which I don't believe in anyway) and then when I called you on it you change your tune? And claim I have a guilty conscience? You called my Gods a liar and a deceiver. Why? Unless you believed them to be the anti-of your God.
Bullshit.
The truth is you have absolutely no flipping clue whose God is right or whose God is wrong - and you're scared to death that your God might be on my side.
If your faith were really that strong - you wouldn't feel the compulsory need to preach to everyone and turn every blog into your personal soapbox crying for your God's attention and hoping desperately for his praise.
It bugs you that any other good person can possibly not believe in your God because that would mean your morals and values can be found elsewhere and - holy crap - that might just diminish the importance of the Bible.
Well, I hate to tell you - but if I die and find out that all this time you were actually right - and your God overlooks all my good deeds in my life but lets you and your judgemental, condescending, rude, and don't forget you knowingly sin into his grace -
He can Have Heaven. I wouldn't want to be up there anyway with child-molesting priests who can get off scott-free by going to confession anyway.
Now - kindly leave my blog. Don't comment, don't reply, don't come in here. You have successfully degraded my blog into exactly what I did not want. Other Christians are here and they are respecting me as a person and as an author. You are not. Just go find a blog you like, click the back button, or find another author. I don't care which blog you go to or where you want to preach.
But I will not tolerate it here. I do not want it. And how dare you try to force it on me.
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"when you have nothing else to say, "Fwonk" is always the perfect thing."
"yeah well, fwonk"
--Devon
Fanaile Essence,
A-Team Member
Fanaile, I want to personally apologize that parts of these comments turned into a religious debate, and especially that I am a part of that
I know this is totally not what you were going for.
I love that you are so understanding, so open-minded, and so accepting. Please know that :)
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http://progressiveu.org/143541-how-to-survive-the-2008-elections
No worries, dear! :)
I don't mind a little debate, and for the most part, I'm very glad to see most of the responses to this post.
From what I can tell, with one exception, everyone of varying religions (at least one other Pagan, Christians, atheist, and a Buddhist) were able to come to this blog and take what I tried to portray from this blog - so overall I am pleased.
At least most people got my message :)
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"when you have nothing else to say, "Fwonk" is always the perfect thing."
"yeah well, fwonk"
--Devon
Fanaile Essence,
A-Team Member
Thanks. I had a little guilt when I realized that I had indulged in the debate with true believer...
Congrats on a very successful blog. I really did learn a lot.
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http://www.progressiveu.org/090204-dont-miss-this-chance
Thanks for posting this fanaile essence. I was nice to have insight into who you are. I only have one question, what is the name of your religion?
DISCLAIMER: I am not being rude. I'm stating my opinion. No personal attacks are meant. Please give some leniency on how you take my words. imagine me saying them with a smile. ^__^
I am truly Grateful to share this with you and many others .I belong to my Fathers Church The Church Of Jesus Christ Of Latter Day Saints. And great are the blessings that the Lord has Given me and My Family.Amen
I think Alenka was asking Fanaile.
I believe her faith is called "Pagan."
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http://progressiveu.org/143541-how-to-survive-the-2008-elections
Your statement will never try and convert you, change you, or make you change your mind. I will never call you stupid if you believe in something different.
I believe that if you don't agree with me, I could give a rat's ass.
Where have I gone against my words, exactly?
I don't think you're stupid for what you believe in, I don't want to try to change you or your beliefs, and I don't care one way or another whether or not you agree with me regarding my beliefs.
I believe in balance, equality, and justice - you don't. I don't believe in eternal hell, you do. I haven't called your God false, or claimed he won't be there - which you have. I haven't presumed to know any divine plan or preach that my religion is truth - you have.
I asked you to leave my blog, you refused. I've remained respectful. You however have not.
And you never answered my question - why is it so "terrible" that I believe in an eye for an eye when the Bible says so anyway? Or did you just not want to deal with that part of the Bible?
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"when you have nothing else to say, "Fwonk" is always the perfect thing."
"yeah well, fwonk"
--Devon
Fanaile Essence,
A-Team Member
but people are not ready to here the truth and for this cause I have removed all of my blogs concerning the truth .For man will stay in darkness a little while longer .. Amen
So now you're a sinner and a hypocrite. Nice.
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http://progressiveu.org/143541-how-to-survive-the-2008-elections
Remember those that are offended ,Choose to be offended, Because of there Pride. and what is the First deadly SIN. Pride. Amen
Hm, you're right. It is the first sin, and I believe it's considered to be one of the worst...
I'm so glad that I don't go around pridefully telling everyone that my religion is the one and only truth and people are ignorant for not believing in it.
That would be dreadful!
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"when you have nothing else to say, "Fwonk" is always the perfect thing."
"yeah well, fwonk"
--Devon
Fanaile Essence,
A-Team Member
Religon. I have always said that you must seek for the truth for your self .
And when the truth they find is different than that your religion says must be, you resort to tactics. Christianity has a bad rap, in part because there are so many out there that believe the way to converting is through preaching the fire and brimstone, telling them they are wrong, their religious beliefs (or lack thereof) will send them to hell, are worthless, or whatever the spiel of the day is. That is what you have done here and that, in part, is what has everyone so upset.
In reality, we're all living in the same plane of existence and on that plane, no one knows who is correct. We have guesses, some more rational than others. But there is not a single person walking this planet today who knows with absolute certainty that they are correct. They may think so, but then so does everyone else. That kind of puts everyone on the same page; and that page is clueless and guessing.
What really matters is how one lives one's life. Condemnation and a holier than thou attitude are not high on my list of traits to possess or things to give the world. Maybe Fanaile is wrong. Maybe I am. Maybe percivale, Darwins Beagle, and Nick are wrong. And maybe, just maybe, you are wrong. As Fanaile said, if all it takes to get into Heaven is a confession, I'd rather go elsewhere. There are phenomenal people, phenomenal ideals and phenomenal role models in every religion. Ignoring that reality in order to preach a truth that ignores that reality makes little sense. If my soul will burn in hell for refusing to accept that, so be it.
I would rather burn in hell forever than treat people as if what they stand for and who they are does not matter. I would rather burn in hell forever than continue to ignore the wishes of good people to continue railing against some perceived shortcomings. And I would rather burn in hell forever than continually push as you have and then claim that everyone must seek the truth for themselves, all the while neglecting to say that you won't leave them to seek that truth if it looks as if they may just believe another of the truths out there.
Faith shouldn't be about scare tactics and refusing to listen and thus far, that's what we have gotten from you, despite a request by the author that it not continue. You owe her an apology for turning her blog into the exact thing she did not want this to be. If that's how you tell people to seek the truth, you might want to dance to a different tune because that one has everyone plugging their ears in horror that someone could be so blatantly callous as to disrespect the wishes of another not once, not twice, but three times in a row and then claim that everyone must seek the truth on their own.
You're not allowing her to seek it, you're attempting to force your truth down her throat whether she wishes it or no, and that's not acceptable. She found a truth that works for her, leave her to it. If she's wrong, it's not your soul that is in trouble. It's hers and that's a possibility she has considered and decided it was a risk worth taking. You don't have to accept it, but as one human to another, you should respect it and thus far, she has gotten absolutely none of that from you. There are plenty of others out there that would love to share the joy's of Christianity with you, seek them out. When someone says enough is enough, please leave (or any variation thereof), it means it's time to move on.
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"In the Land of Memory, the time is always Now.
In the Kingdom of Ago, the clocks tick... but their hands never move.
There is an Unfound Door
(O Lost)
and memory is the key which opens it." -King
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Remember people choose to get mad .it is there choice .if they have the truth. Then why is it that my words should offend .Remember It is easer to say nothing and forgive Then to up set your self for nothing, Is it not .Pride causes much disputation .Remember we make that choice to be angered. For my self If some one offends me I say nothing and I Ignore them. So that there be no contention .Is this not true . we are held accountable for our own choices and not for anothers.
Denying responsibility for your part is incredibly disappointing.
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"In the Land of Memory, the time is always Now.
In the Kingdom of Ago, the clocks tick... but their hands never move.
There is an Unfound Door
(O Lost)
and memory is the key which opens it." -King
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I don't understand what you are trying to do here. I don't even know what religion it is that you are trying to preach. I'm a member of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day saints as well, I've served as a missionary for the church and nowhere in the things that they taught me about sharing the gospel did they mention the use of scare tactics. In two years teaching others of our beliefs I never once told someone "Convert or you are going to hell." I like to think that I was successful in converting some people, but I did it with love. I would like to quote the 11th article of faith to you:
"We claim the privilege of worshiping Almighty God according to the dictates of our own conscience and allow all men the same privilege, let them worship how, where or what they may."
Sometimes people just don't believe what we believe, I personally do not think that God is going to send them all to "hell" if they are good people in and of themselves.
Whatever doesn't kill you should be dead when you're done with it.
Here dose this sound like I tell People were they will go .Another Blog I was on. Your statement: all other Christians are going to hell .Why would you say such a thing. why do you talk about things that you know nothing about, for if you new God then you would know that your statement was false and you would not need to say this statement . For you would know the truth for your self ..Do you not know that God is a just God .How is someone to be Judge of something that they know nothing of. God is not like the unjust laws of the Land were if you break a law, and you did not know about the Law, the laws of the land will Judge you for breaking that law .and they will show no compassion for the wrong you did .God will not Judge you for not knowing his Law. If you break God laws and you new not the Law. God will not Judge you for something that you did not know .so God must be a Just God is he Not. so how is some one to be cast into hell if they no not the Law So then what would be Gods purpose for his people, if all who were not in his True and Living Church be cast in hell. You stated also .Didn't Joseph Smith have his "own faith" and start his "own church?" NO ,Remember that the bible has been tampered with. Those that started there own Churches took out from the Bible these words and many more so that man would not look forward to any changes in the world. Remember the Devil. What is his work to destroy God work. That in the Last days that the Lord would establish his Church on the earth .and Josephs Smith was called by God do this work. To restore the Fullness of the Gospel and the Priest hood and all of the ordnances .If this were not true then man would be utterly destroyed at the second coming of our Lord Jesus Christ. And please note that there is no such Church as a Mormon Church. Even those that belong to God true Church Give no respect to that what is Gods .and many there call them selves a Mormon .This is very disrespectful to God ,We are Latter Day Saints that have been called in the Last days to go for forth and preach the Gospel to all of Gods creatures. You stated are we the only true church Yes ,why ,Well think back did God have all sort of churches in Adams and Eve times No only his true and Living Church. Other Church started because God Laws are very strict and men wanted to do what they want .And that was the work of the devil to have the hearts of men turn away from there God. This is the Truth and weather in this life you will know the truth of in the after life it matters not Truth is Truth.
Your statement: Convert or you are going to hell." why would you even say that I have said such a thing I think that you need to Look closely to what I have stated and not others .If I have ever said that then Please show me were. Thank you
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Even if you have not outwardly said it in those exact words, you have inferred that in multiple posts. It is very difficult to answer any questions of yours because you [so cowardly] deleted all of your posts, so it is almost impossible to cite you anymore:
"WHY SHOW SIMPATHY TO ONE THAT IS DECIVED" on 11/29 in "My Own Statement of Faith" This teaches hate.
"When the time comes God will cleans the earth of such wicked traditions" on 11/30 in "My Own Statement of Faith" This says that God is going to kill everyone who believes in another faith.
"But know this they will be cast into the Pit of hell prepared for the devil and his angles" in "The Unreported: Sexual Abuse in the Family" Yes, you are referring to sinners. But either way, you are condemning.
"Good to return to live with God Evil to be cast into the pit of hell" in The Unreported: Sexual Abuse in the Family" This is the most blatant proof of you stating that people are going to hell and also the most blatant disregard for any truth based on Christianity.
I'll return with more if you don't think this is enough.
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this is war. every line is about who i don't wanna write about anymore. [Brand New]
http://progressiveu.org/143541-how-to-survive-the-2008-elections
that the world today is any different then in days of old. when the Lord destroyed the wicked in days of old also, Is God not the same today yesterday and for ever .My words are true . Like I said when the time comes you will know that I have spoken the truth ,there is no more to talk about, and I will not .So (Seek for your own salvation.) Let not the world lead you unto Destruction. See that you have the Truth of all things Ask and you shell receive knock and he shell BE OPEN UNTO YOU . People feel of there guilt because they do not do what the Lord wants them to do. I am finish talking until many signs will come about when you are ready to learn the TRUTH .Many the Lord help you to better under stand my words .Go on bending knees and ask for the truth for your self ,To what any one says is true .For ye must learn for your self, Amen I will ask you why have you NOT gone on your knees as of yet to ask God if my words be true .I all ready know the answer to this question so ye need not reply .for I will no longer answer, until people are truly ready to make sacrifices in there own lives even as Jesus Christ has done for us. Amen
Thank God you will not be answering anymore.
And I mean that.
I promise you, I do not need your Bullshit to love my God. I already know where I stand with Him and I'm so glad I don't have the distorted view you do about Him.
Thank God.
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this is war. every line is about who i don't wanna write about anymore. [Brand New]
http://progressiveu.org/143541-how-to-survive-the-2008-elections
"Why do you state; lunatic asylum To refer that there be no God." Actually, that doesn't have anything to do with this discussion is particular, I just like the quote. Further more, it's not saying anything about god. All it is saying is that just because people believe in it, that doesn't make it true.
"I know that your going to say that If god was real, that people would not suffer in any asylum and that there would be no such sickness. because we would all be well ." Actually, all that I would say is that if a totally benevolent god was real it would seem illogical that that sort of thing would be going on.
"remember it is not God that created these Illness in people, it is man with all there contamination upon the earth. And the poisons that are put on our crops .and all the dangers that are in our homes and in all of our foods, all sorts of cleaning materials that cause so many people to be sick." Actually, though there are many diseases and health problems caused by man, there are many that are naturally occurring.
"So here is your answer to your question. People fault not God .remember this always . Just to Add drugs and booze in the world now who’s fault MAN. And everyone that has created a danger’s substances will stand before god to answer him why they new that dangers and yet still gave it the people." Well yes, but what about, say, Malaria? Or the common cold? Or Schizophrenia? Or Smallpox? Or a hundred other diseases that exist that have nothing to do with what we've done? It's not like all sick people are smoking, drinking drug-addicts.
"A casual stroll through the lunatic asylum shows that faith does not prove anything."
Friedrich Nietzsche
Go get a tattoo, you hippie!
Nicholas Aden
Self-Promotion
Don't tell me what to do! Why don't ypu get a tatoo, huh?
"A casual stroll through the lunatic asylum shows that faith does not prove anything."
Friedrich Nietzsche
I WILL!
Nicholas Aden
Self-Promotion